I definitely believe we should ask for what God wants to give us. He is here and working! Even where they are not, in some (including where we are now) I often sense a powerful evidence of the Holy Spirit. Before He returned to heaven, Jesus said, “… you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit … But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you.” Acts 1:5-8. Trying to physically prove existence of God. I do believe the Holy Spirit is active today. God is no less merciful, no less compassionate, no less caring when it comes to the physical condition of his people after Pentecost than he was before Pentecost.”, “Don’t ever think of yourself as at one end of a rope and Satan at the other, both of you struggling to overpower the other. 2:13; 1 Pet. The question is whether the miraculous gifts of the Spirit, described primarily in 1 Corinthians 12–14, are still active in the church today. But whether you agree or not, you won’t feel pushed in this book. My views on Holy Spirit have changed through the years, too, thankfully. Holy Spirit, in Christian belief, the third person of the Trinity. God is God. 12:13). So chapter by chapter, gift by gift, Storms writes why he does believe that the Spirit still works through humans with special gifts. Paul writes, Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. There are many, many testimonies of people who weren't even Christians, but have felt the incredible power of the Spirit – often it's been instrumental in their decision to follow Jesus; the Alpha course is built … The Holy Spirit is the seal and guarantee (Eph. Am I wrong in thinking this? . What are your thoughts on this? I’m grateful for examples of humility when I’m fortunate enough to see them. Holy Spirit seals us unto the day of redemption (Eph. This is a deep subject, and the Bible even tells us the following: “Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.” 1 Corinthians 14:12. So in that sense maybe I wouldn’t call myself a cessationist, because I do believe God can and does work through those kinds of gifts on occasion, but I just think there is much less occasion for it now that we have the written Word of God, which can reach many people more effectively than a miracle here and there. The aforementioned paragraph is key. I was in Africa on my second mission trip, and we prayed for a woman’s leg to be healed. The Holy Spirit has been extremely busy the past two thousand years–convicting people of sin, guiding them into the truth (John 16:7-10, John 14:15-18), interceding for us when we pray (Romans 8:26-27) and many other things. I can tell that this is a subject you’ve spent time studying, Linda. But let us see what the Bible says!Speaking with other tongues - that is, the ability to speak by the power of the … Not only does the Holy Spirit help us when we are weak, but He prays for us as well. If it once was, it still is, however, there are certain qualification that must be present in our life. The reason the miraculous gifts were given to the early church (or at least one of the reasons) was to testify to the validity of the message taught by the apostles and other inspired teachers at a time when the New Testament was not yet complete. Regarding embarrassing examples of faith healers on TV (or in person), Storms says, “I resolved in my heart that I would never justify my disobedience to God’s Word because of the abusive or embarrassing practices of others.”, “God is far more pleased with our obedience than he is with our success. You are in Christ who is over all. May you have a Blessed Holy Week! Thank you for the book review. I love how your words and your reading force me to think. W. L. Craig says that the Jews believed in a kingly Messiah would free them from Rome. The Holy Spirit confirms things as true. ***Simple corrections of incomplete sentences*** John 16:8 notes, "And when he [the Holy Spirit] comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment." I don't know sir. Now, I wouldn’t think that it’s crazy, but maybe her healing wouldn’t happen on the spot, but maybe years later. I have seen both sides of it- being in a church where I was taught that the gifts of the Holy Spirit didn’t operate today and also a church where the gifts of the Spirit were encouraged but where I think there was some wrong and dangerous teaching around them- e.g. Dear Lisa, i think i will like this book.. For the most part, whether we think or believe what we want, it doesn’t change who God is. [click here if you can’t see the 1:27 video]. The Bible shows us clearly what the Holy Spirit is. It wasn’t until years layer that I realized God HAD answered, and it didn’t happen because it wasn’t something I needed. for the review copy of this book. “I don’t know for sure” has become a phrase I’ve had to use a lot more in the past several years as well, Michele. I see him at work in my own life and in the lives of those around me. It is not a giving up of food (or some activity) for its own sake. 1:13; 4:30). Alejandro Espino, Thanks for following up on the article, “12 Reasons Why the Holy Spirit is Not a Person” (Part-1) The verses you brought up are BIG topics which require a full Bible Study on each of them because we need to include the CONTEXT of each verse when trying to understand what it means. For example, I don’t think we necessarily need to speak in tongues during a meeting with fellow Christians. Thanks, Lisa, for using your mind and your heart to advance the kingdom of God and to encourage us to be thinking people. I recommend this book be read with an open mind. I believe that each “side” of these belief systems can benefit from listening and joining in with the other. As His children, we have a duty to the Father not to live according to the sinful nature (Rom. God definitely shows up where he is wanted and in ways he can be seen! Read them for yourself in Practicing the Power to form your own conclusions. However, sometimes when I don’t get my way, or receive the answers I want, I view that as the Holy Spirit not answering. Paul wrote, “You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit…. Thanks for sharing, Bettie. The Bible says that the Holy Spirit created the world (Genesis 1:2), led Jesus into the desert (Matthew 4:1), comes to us at Confirmation (), and intercedes for us in sighs that we cannot understand (Romans 8:26).Always remember that The Church teaches that The Holy Spirit … It didn’t, and even in my untaught state I thought that was a little suspicious. The writer of Hebrews tells us that the purpose of miracles (or at least one of the purposes) is to testify to and confirm the message (Hebrews 2:4). I agree that sometimes we don’t see as many miracles because we aren’t looking for them. Some go beyond the gifts explained in the Scripture claiming the church now has more power than the apostles had and abilities from new gifts that not … I pray you and your family have a blessed Easter. However, because we have the completed Words of God, the Spirit does … Your final statement sums it up well for me, too: “I do believe the Holy Spirit works today but I think it’s not always in a way we can predict or control.”. What Anita said. Are the gifts of the Holy Spirit still active today? Your thoughts? It sounds like a good book, Lisa! I have been hearing a lot about obedience recently and I like that God is not looking at out success but out obedience. We cannot live in and for God apart from the power, work and manifestation of the Holy Spirit in our lives. Have a meaningful Holy Week, friend. Storms writes with humility. We likely can all agree on this prayer offered by Storms in his conclusion: “Pray yet again that God would increase your spiritual hunger pangs, that he would intensify your thirst for godly power, that he would never allow you to settle for the status quo.”. I typically have the problem on the other side–even when a book isn’t good, I feel too compelled to finish it. And Our intellectual knowledge is limited. Honestly, then I was like, this is kind of crazy. Did Moses copy the Old Testament from other sources? However, because we have the completed Words of God, the Spirit does not normally work through physical miracles today. “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.” Galatians 5:22-23a. Speaking in tongues is only spoken to God. Did the believers receive the Holy Spirit when they were baptized in Samaria in Acts 8? CBN.com – The Baptist world was rocked in 1993 when Jack Deere, a former professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, published the groundbreaking book, Surprised by the Power of the Spirit – describing the … But I can control whether or not I am willing to step out and take a risk. Miracles are not used by God to convince people to become a Christian, but to validate that the message is from God. 4:5). That’s the here humanity has reached…. Can you explain Acts 10:44 and why the Holy Spirit fell on the Gentiles? And I also believe that other times, we look and look and they just don’t come because it’s not how God is at work. First, "receiving the Holy Spirit" is the same as "the baptism in the Holy Spirit." Even when we can’t see him, we can know he is with us. ha. 1:2; Rom. Will there be counterfeits posing and acting, yes. I am very much confused as some say that for example speaking in tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit while the other says it is 100 percent demonic. The Holy Ghost will not dwell in an unclean temple, therefore for Him to work more in our life, or any other spiritual gift, our life must be clean, and ready to receive. John Oakes Sermons in Bakersfield: John IX Jesus and the Feast of Tabernacles. I have seen excesses, but I have also been in quiet settings where I have seen power that was undeniable. I’m so glad you are enjoying Grit. In other words: if you don’t think it will happen, it’s less likely to. He is not some impersonal power, like energy. Here we have so much and have a harder time understanding that we still need to depend on God. Jesus Himself compared the will of the wind to the work of God’s Spirit (John 3:8). The word spirit (from the Latin spiritus meaning "breath") appears either alone or with other words in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and the New Testament.Combinations include expressions such as the "Holy Spirit", "Spirit of God", and in Christianity, "Spirit of Christ".. 8:12) but to “put to death the misdeeds of the body” (Romans 8:13; Col. 3:5-11). One of the reasons is: “If signs, wonders, and miracles were essential in the physical presence of the Son of God, how much more essential are they now in his absence? He grieves, He knows, He is eternal, He encourages, He gives understanding, He gives peace, He comforts, He directs, and He can be prayed to. ha. I think the reason we see so few miracles today – or seem to see few – is that most of the people practicing the Gifts do so for their own glorification, or at best to lay at the altar f an imaginary God, one whom they think they can either bribe or placate with their works. ” 2 Peter 1: 20 – “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” v21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”. It never did, and I grieved for a while, thinking there was something wrong with me. Etymology. That is why we need to Holy Spirit. We don’t talk about the Holy Spirit very often, yet this is the gift we have been left by Jesus Christ when He left the earth. The role of the Holy Spirit: to give us strength and help in our fight against sin. However, I missed out on a lot of the spiritual disciplines that were deemed a little too “traditional” or “ritual.” So in the last few years, as my pace has greatly slowed down, God has led me to research and look into some of those older practices. . From Scripture we learn that the Holy Spirit is God. May the Holy Spirit be with you always. Stand firm.” May you have a wonderful Easter! It’s not a right or wrong choice. It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will (Reasoning from the Scriptures 1985, 81). The latter appendix includes this list: “Twelve Bad Reasons for Being a Cessationist” (one who believes certain gifts have ceased, stopped). http://blessed-are-the-pure-of-heart.blogspot.com/2017/04/your-dying-spouse-295-patient-pride.html, Glad to get your take on this, Andrew. His book focuses a lot on how the gifts can work within a church setting. It’s hard to argue with that. The Holy Spirit reminds us of God’s Word. Mysticism? “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit …” Ephesians 4:30. Over my lifetime, my understanding has broadened and my husband and I have been in churches where the gifts are active as well as ones where they are not. The question is, does He still give miraculous gifts to the church today, or was the giving of spiritual gifts a "one-time deal" that applied only to the early church? What is Kabbalah? The book ends with two appendices, An Alternative Interpretation of 1 Corinthians 14:33-35, and Are Miraculous Gifts for Today, derived from Storms’ previous writings. Looks like an interesting book. Thanks for bringing that up, Anita. Miracles abound. This is also not a question of can the Holy Spirit give someone a miraculous gift. 0. The Holy Spirit was pretty active during the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. Thanks for your personal testimony, Mary. Our Teacher of righteousness. I do believe the Holy Spirit is very active today, but personally I don’t think what we call the “sign gifts” are what He primarily uses today. the holy Spirit Southern Baptists Struggle with the Holy Spirit By Craig von Buseck CBN.com Contributing Writer. You make such a valid point that there is a middle ground between total cessationism and total continuationism (is that a word?) I missed out a lot on the traditional spiritual disciplines as well, and have enjoyed learning, as an adult, about how to do contemplative prayer, lectio divina, etc., from a nearby Catholic community. I think some people are afraid to believe in the gifts, and do not ask to receive. This is for my RS survey just write any idea's, opinions, thoughts, experience, evidence...whatever! He does a balanced job of showing pros and cons of how people have used and misused the gifts in the past. I suspect that there are many, many miracles, say, of healing, performed by people who don’t advertise them on websites, and whose grateful recipients realize that there is something holy about the right hand not telling the left what it’s doing. I can’t guarantee that my prayers for the sick will result in healing. You likely have one, too. Their faith is forever changed and solidified because of it. How were the gifts of the Holy Spirit given? The Holy S pirit is the third person of the Blessed Trinity, just as active in the world today as ever. Required fields are marked *. Bible verses about the Holy Spirit. All rights reserved. When were they saved? And the risk is worth it.”, “When God wants to bless us with a miraculous answer to our prayer, he will take the initiative to cultivate and build into our hearts the fulfillment of the condition he requires.”. . But since you asked us to share our thoughts…I did. If you look at the Old and the New Testament you will discover that throughout most of the history of God’s people, there were few miracles. I’m always amazed at stories of missionaries in foreign countries. Thanks for stopping in, Margaret. As always, it DOES look like a great book. Storms follows that list with another list: “Twelve Good Reasons for Being a Continuationist” (one who believes that all the gifts of the Spirit continue to be given by God today). 1:13-14) that we are God’s children (Rom. I believe whole-heartedly the Holy Spirit works today in miraculous ways. Glad you are one. I grew up in churches where we believed strongly in the gifts of the Holy Spirit being in operation for today, so yes I still believe that. It is about giving up food for Christ’s sake. I have a preference. Whichever view you hold, this book might interest you. That all the offices, the manifestations and gifts of the Holy Spirit listed in 1 Corinthians 12:7-11 and the ministry gifts of Christ referred to in Ephesians 4:11 are active. I think He works in different ways and whatever the situation may be. He works in many ways in the lives of Christians as well as working to convict those who are not saved. It’s always uplifting to hear others’ experiences of how they have seen God at work, in all kinds of places. Don’t live in fear of the devil and his minions. … 5:16). That’s why He asks us to believe! Is it Gnosticism? I would like to know whether the gifts of the Holy Spirit is still active in these days? When Jesus told His disciples that He would send another comforter, I do not believe that He was saying for them only. “Fasting is about spiritual indulgence! But it doesn’t negate the presence of the very thing. Once as a teenager (not having grown up in church or been taught about any of this at that point), I called the advertised phone number of one of the better known Christian TV programs, and I don’t remember if the guy said anything to me about grace or forgiveness or Jesus. Yes, I took the Grit Scale and am pretty gritty, but I am sure that it would not have been quite so much so when I was younger. But it’s one that moves me when others share it. And often the reason they didn’t pray for them or ask for them is because they had a prior conviction or belief that they did not exist or were not available to them. Thank you, Lux, and the same to you. That’s one reason I hold my current beliefs with an open hand because I trust God is always transforming us to more full truths. But instead, “beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.” If the Word of God is God-breathed, it seems natural that it would be the primary way He speaks to people these days. God is God… Saying the Holy Spirit is not active is saying God is not! I love learning from others who have had different experiences and studies. Why is the Holy Spirit not active today as during the Old and New Testaments? to Josephus John the Baptist died 5 years after Jesus and that the gospel writers rewrote history to fit the Jesus narrative? those whose greatest fear in worship is emotionalism and those whose greatest fear is intellectualism. Then at a later time I was reading books like The Cross and the Switchblade, famous at the time, where this kind of thing was just taken as perfectly natural. Do you believe the Spirit is still active today, or that he now speaks only in the words of the Bible? He certainly won’t stay in the box I made for him! I also have heard friends who have been in foreign countries come back with stories that we can hardly believe here in the states. I’m sure my opinions on many aspects of spirituality are still majorly flawed, but his underlying truth and grace still cover my errors since I belong to him. The Holy Spirit not only speaks the words of Jesus to you, but he actually is the one who leads and directs your steps into the abundant life that Jesus promised. How is this reconciled? Hello bro. Because I have been blessed to have witnessed a number of miracles I can honestly say I’ve seen the Holy Spirit at work. I have known people who have been miraculously healed, but it hasn’t come by laying on of hands or someone praying over them and pronouncing them healed. And yet, very little of the Spirit’s work is properly recognized by God’s people today. In Romans 8, Paul describes how the Holy Spirit intercedes (or prays) for believers.He says, “Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. Isn’t it interesting how we go back to fill in those gaps once we get to be an adult? I continue to think about it, even after I finished the book (which is one sign of a good book to me). The Gift of Tongues is from the Holy Spirit and Spoken Only to God. First, He does a work in the hearts of all people everywhere. I’ve been blinded in the past by my own disbelief in them to have seen as many as I could have (if that makes sense). Fruit of the Spirit is the product of faith. The question is whether the Holy Spirit still dispenses the miraculous gifts today. . I have to be careful to not get caught up in MY view, but to trust in God’s plan! These are two extremes. Why do we need the Holy Spirit? 32 thoughts on “ Holy Spirit – Still Active Today or Not? He does say worship can be awakened, sustained, and energized by the Spirit. Does God know all future events, including possible events? I hear you, Lesley. I agree with you–because I’ve seen the Spirit actively at work in my own life and in the lives of others, I believe that he is definitely still active today. I so appreciate you taking the time to write down these thoughts, Barbara. (as I would define them anyway). Not everyone is bestowed of this gift. The word spirit is rendered as רוּחַ … Just as in Jesus' day and in the days of the early Church, the scribes and the Pharisees rejected the miraculous power of the Holy Spirit; it is not surprising that today there are those who reject speaking in other tongues, together with the other miraculous manifestations of the Spirit of God. 8:2). Or instead do you believe he stopped moving supernaturally near the end of the first century? Please share your thoughts in the comments. He works in many ways in the lives of Christians as well as working to convict those who are not saved. If the OT prophecies of the Messiah came true, why did Jews not believe in Jesus? – Sam Storms. The Holy Spirit is very active today. I particularly enjoyed Chapter 12, “The Importance of Worship in the Spirit.” Storms doesn’t say worship itself is a gift of the Spirit. The Spirit has many functions, roles, and activities. I am beginning to see our opinions about what or how we think of God does not make Him less or More! And I’m glad. Were the Jews in the first century aware that the Christians claimed they were responsible for the death of Jesus? As an aside, I am currently about 1/3 of the way through the book you recently mentioned to me, Grit, and like it a great deal. As such, there are not two classes of Christians (the "saved" and the "charismatic"); if you are born again, you have been baptized in the Spirit. Which is correct? At the end of the first century, there would have still been living wittnesses to jesus’ earthly ministry which -I postulate – would have given a more pure faith and motivation. How do you respond to the claim that acc. I’ve found now that the more open I am to believing, the more able I am to see. If that is what you are saying, then you are correct. It as more like a number of people praying for them, and when they went back for tests, the tests showed nothing was wrong. Like other gifts, speaking in tongues is a gift from the Holy Spirit. They are not necessarily meant for believers, but for unbelievers to see and know Christ. I now this is an area where good people who love God can differ (John MacArthur and John Piper are on different sides of this issue), and I don’t make it a test of fellowship. I agree with him on many points, and disagree on others. Your email address will not be published. As a consequence, too much concentration focuses on the subjective experience of the Spirit rather than … Your thoughts on this? As Andrew says there are still raw miracles and moves of the Holy Spirit by seemingly ordinary people who truly follow Jesus. Success is not something we ultimately control. Read more about who the Holy Spirit is and the necessary and life-changing role He can play in our lives. I imagine Sam’s book could be controversial in the minds of some people but your call to read with an open mind gives fair warning. I begged God in my bedroom to let that happen to me if it was something I needed. I’m so grateful for that! Pretty much the only time when significant miracles are recorded is in times when God was giving new revelation. I read recently that Elon Musk said that religion and/or spirituality, has no place in science. The author of Practicing the Power believes that the Spirit still gives gifts today. I’m also grateful that this issue isn’t a test of fellowship. Maybe it’s because those praying actually believe in the power of God to overcome evil. Satan is beneath you, in Christ’s name.”, “We are to pray, ‘Come, Holy Spirit,’ and be confident that he will, whether or not manifestations follow. I love seeing gritty people. I find them very helpful. the holy spirit is the active force of God. My views are still in flux. As such the role of the Spirit is multi-faceted. With Christ as my witness, I speak with utter truthfulness. Question: "What is the role of the Holy Spirit in our lives today?" My thanks to BookLook Bloggers Maybe we don’t realize how subtle the devil’s power is in our culture, so we don’t pray hard against it. I always value your opinions. the expectation that God should heal everyone who was prayed for and if he didn’t the problem must be a lack of faith. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Learn more about the importance of the Holy Spirit in Christianity. My conscience and the Holy Spirit … Thanks for sharing this. How is the Holy Spirit active in our lives today? It’s a gift I’ve not been given. Our minds just can’t seem to handle everything at once; he’s way too big! 1 Cor 12:3 says we cannot say Jesus is Lord unless we have the Spirit, but the Bible teaches we must say Jesus is Lord to receive the Holy Spirit. . “I believe that one of the reasons why spiritual gifts are less frequent in certain seasons of church history than in others is due to the fact that people didn’t seek, pursue, or passionately and incessantly pray for these gifts. Your concluding paragraph is so true: the working of the Spirit is often through people that are quiet and “invisible” as they allow him to move through them. Receiving the Holy Spirit is not only possible, it is essential for Christ-centered living. According to Acts 5:32 Almighty God Jehovah 'gives holy spirit to those obeying him as ruler', 'they are no part of the world' (John 17:16), Jesus' true disciples. My views have changed over the years. This is what Jesus said during his ministry (John 10:25, 32, 38). We can see him differently based on our right or wrong beliefs, but who he is remains constant. If they do, we should not prevent them from occurring. No! And, he maintains, many Christians in the West remain closed to the Spirit and are hampered by fear when it comes to relating to Him and … Answer: Of all the gifts given to mankind by God, there is none greater than the presence of the Holy Spirit. Mary Baker Eddy, founder of “Christian Science,” characterized the third person of the Trinity as “Divine Science” (n.d., 55). Have a blessed Easter. Thanks for sharing this here. Holy Spirit sets us free from the law of sin and death (Rom. 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